Autosteer Lane Centering Adjust

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Description

Offer a feature to influence the Autosteer lane centering, e.g. “more to the left”, “more to the right.   It might be more automatic based on what appears on either side of the car.

Competitive/Pricing/Notes

This could be a “teaching mode” for a particular (commuter) trip, effective only on the next trip, or an immediate “manual correction” through the steering wheel (gently forcing against the resistance of the AP, or possibly combined with the cruise control lever).

It might be possible to automate this so that if you’re in the left lane on a freeway, with lots of room to the left, it shifts a bit to the left. If there is a barrier at the left edge of the late, perhaps it shifts a bit to the right. A truck in the adjacent lane may shift away from the truck a foot or so.

Status

As of 2021, Autosteer does move slightly away from vehicles that are near the edge of the next lane but does not do this for barriers and other side items.

(voting combined from a close duplicate that has been removed)

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     Created 26-Nov-2015

14 Comments

This would also be very useful in Europe in traffic jams. Motor cyclist will pass the cars on the right side of the fast lane (between the cars on the fast lane and the cars on the adjacent lane). So it is very annoying to be in the middle on the fast lane. Here in Europe you always drive complete left of the fast lane in traffic jams / slow traffic.
    Created 1-Jul-2020
Very important for me : to let more place for bike/motorbikes .

either for them to go in front of me..or for me to go in front of them..

 
    Created 9-May-2020
Autopilot does already move slightly off the lane center if an object is getting too close to one side of the vehicle. But I will admit that Autopilot does drive much too close to concrete barriers and guard rails for my comfort.
    Created 11-Dec-2018
There is also value in having the car move a little randomly in the lane, to even out the wear on the road surface.
    Created 2-Dec-2018
Ticobird, your comments are insightful.  I think it is going to be a while before artificial intelligence truly emulates human complex thinking and decision making which is required for robotic driving.  So how about creating a mode I will call "Augmented Pilot" which augments the human but does not replace him/her.  In Augmented Pilot mode the cases you bring up with pot holes and jw-charged mentions about trucks and ruts could be addressed.  We already have Augmented Pilot for TACC where you can manually adjust the speed so why not Augmented Pilot for steering using the nudge function where you can manually  adjust the robot for the use case conditions that the robot is unaware.  This would also enable individual preference as we all drive a bit differently.  For example, some said in release 17.26.76 that they liked the fast lane change because they felt safer to avoid waiting, others said it scared the heck out of them.  Augmented Pilot could be tuned/controlled by the individual driver just like we do today with our smartphones which would probably create higher adoption rates.
    Created 2-Aug-2017
This feature would also be helpful in two situations:
1. When in a curve and there is a truck on the inside lane of the curve and you are on the outside, nudge the car to the outside of the curve so you don't feel like you are going to hit the truck. I have had to take over several times in fear of hitting the truck.

2. At least in the Seattle area, the roads are getting very rough from studded tires, so it would be nice to be able to nudge left or right to get out of the studded tire ruts.
    Created 2-Aug-2017
I recognized early on in my Tesla Autopilot driving experience the initiation and termination of Autopilot are just like a light switch.  It is either off or on.  There is no middle ground.  If any reason presents itself for why you do not want the assist features of Autopilot active then you simply cancel Autopilot.  The best example for why the Autopilot feature is totally controlled by the driver is in the case of a well paved road becoming a road of pothole nightmares.  Would you turn off Autopilot or watch absentmindedly as your vehicle suspension and tires get beat up ruthlessly by the inanimate road surface?  Of course not, the intelligent driver/owner (you presumably) would absolutely terminate Autopilot.  The Autopilot termination vs adjustment dilemma only presents itself in situations that the driver thinks (wrongly so) that the present Autopilot adjustment parameters should be up to the task of avoiding whatever the driver thinks the system should be capable of avoiding.  Since this thinking is non-professionally presumptuous the driver should immediately recognize the nature of Tesla's Autopilot is as I've just described.  What the poster is suggesting in the larger scope of things is actually new Autopilot programming along with improved Autopilot hardware which Tesla is already committed to providing as an option.
    Created 1-Aug-2017
Steering wheel sensing for hands on needs to be capacitive rather than torque. Well balanced drivers don't provide enough input for the system to sense their hands on the wheel. This would also enable torque to be purely used for the lane adjust feature.
    Created 31-Jul-2017
Good add
    Created 30-Jul-2017
The physical control could just be the steering wheel, where it understands that you are course correcting, not taking over.
    Created 30-Jul-2017
When passing a semi on either side my MS drifts dangerously close to raw trailer part of the truck. You can almost reach out and touch the trailer. Perhaps it is because of the gap in height or open space of the trailer. Once you get close to the cab is corrects. Does not seem to allow enough space in the event of the trailer swerving or effected by wind, driver etc.
    Created 24-Apr-2016
In the UK many MS drivers have noticed that AP seems to have a bias towards the left side of any lane

In the UK most roads have drains in the leftmost 20" of the left lane, so the bias of AP towards the left side of the lane often means the car is hitting the depressions round the drains.

Also when in the right lane and overtaking a lorry the AP goes much closer to the lorry than anyone would when driving manually.
    Created 16-Feb-2016
I think that the Auto Pilot should favor the empty lane, if possible. I cringe whenever I am passing a semi. I was hoping the ultra sonic sensors were able to "see" vehicles in lanes near me and mover over. I also would like the car to make smaller adjustments in it's lane keeping duties. I look like a drunk traveling down the road, zig zaging! Also the lane changing is too abrupt as well.
    Created 1-Jan-2016
During commute hours, I spend almost all my time in the HOV (left) lane which has an empty shoulder on the left, so my position in the lane might as well be biased to the left. Furthermore, during commute hours, I'm often overtaken by motorcyclists who split the lane to the right of the HOV lane, so I'd like to give them a wide berth rather than forcing them to pass dangerously close to my car.
    Created 1-Dec-2015